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NomadX live interview with Michele Le, CEO and Co-founder of Nomad Escape live from Madeira Island

💥 We were live with Michele Le, CEO and Co-founder of Nomad Escape live from Madeira Island to discuss her upcoming retreats Feb 26 to March 5th (one spot left and she’s offering a €200 discount to the NomadX community) and March 13-20th (only 2 spots left) @ https://thenomadescape.com/digital-nomad-island-escape/ 💥

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Interview Transcription

Dave:

Hello NomadX community. This is Dave here coming to you live from Portugal. I’m going to be joined in a few minutes here by Michelle Le from The Nomad Escape. Really looking forward to catching up with Michelle. She’s running an amazing retreat, actually here in Portugal, her first one is going to be. She’s actually got an extra space, we found out, in Avila from February 26 till March 5th. And then she has another event on Madeira Island from March 13th to March 20th. So yeah, looking forward to catching up with Michelle.

Let’s see here if she can join us. Okay, I’m going to have Michelle join us here real quickly, add her in to join us.

Michelle Le:

Hey!

Dave:

Hey Michelle, what’s up?

Michelle Le:

Hi Dave, how are you?

Dave:

I’m doing great. How are you doing?

Michelle Le:

Good. You look sunnier than I do with the sunglasses.

Dave:

I’ve got my office here, I’ve got a bunch of sun coming in. So once in a while-

Michelle Le:

I know-

Dave:

… I try wearing the glasses.

Michelle Le:

I know.

Dave:

So yeah.

Michelle Le:

Looking good.

Dave:

Yeah, I wear the glasses in honor of the Madeira ex-pats because I realize they like the glasses so much. I put a post to that, I’ve never gotten so many negative comments in my life, so I apologize everyone for the glasses, but just once in a while, I’m going to spice it up a bit.

Michelle Le:

Well, I think you look very spiced up with the glasses, so that’s good.

Dave:

All right, Michelle. Well, listen, I’m excited to have you here today. And I know we did a live, this is a little while ago and I had the mask on, so I thought we would do a proper interview. Really, what I want to focus on today is all about your upcoming retreats. And then I guess towards the end I want to chat a bit about your community because you do have an amazing, thriving community, which you’ve started offline and you’re moving online. But yeah, just to get started with, why don’t you tell us a bit about the retreat that you’ve got coming up at the end of the month and then the one that’s coming up in March and where you guys will be having it. And just a little bit of the details about the event, that would be awesome for our community.

Michelle Le:

Sure, sure. Yeah. So as most people know, I organized weeks for digital nomads, online entrepreneurs, online business owners, where we come together and mainly focused on our business development and personal development. So what we’ll be doing, we’re selecting the people who will be joining us and it goes really through a quite strict procedure. People fill in the form, I look at their motivation, their interests, their drive, basically, and the things that they want to get out of a week with us because we have professionals from all different backgrounds with us. For the upcoming one, for example, that starts on the 26th of February, we have super successful online business owners. For example, we have two ladies who run an online course company and one lady goes really well on Instagram and another one on Facebook. And they make seven figures a year, basically. And they all grew through social media and they’re really experts in funnel building and how to leverage social media. And that’s super inspiring, of course. And then we have ads specialists. We have full stack developers. We have automation of sales, health and vitality coaches, data analyst, workshop facilitators and videographers, so much more. So what we look at when people want to join us is we want people to have different backgrounds to be able to give input to their business and have different perspectives on business challenges and business ideas. So basically, mostly what we talk about is validating business ideas or validating the struggles that we see as entrepreneurs, because it’s not always easy, as you probably as well know. You have some struggles and then sometimes you think, “Oh, I don’t know what to do.” It’s quite hard. Then you have 10 other people around say, “Hey, you could try this, you have this resource. I have these contacts, I have these methods that I use.” So that’s mainly what we’re working on there. So what we’re going to do there is basically a fully catered program with a personal trainer in the morning, really hit exercise. We start with boxing, jumping-

Dave:

All right!

Michelle Le:

Really high intensity. We also do yoga and stretching and stuff. But personally for me, I like high energy and I created something that I personally like and my audience also likes. So starting the day fits, with a lot of action, eating healthy, and then bam! Brainstorming and working on our development together.

Dave:

I was checking out the timing of the events. Just so everyone is clear, it’s basically a seven-day retreat. The first one starts February 26th till March 5th. And then the second one, you’ve got us from the 13th to the 20th. The first one’s in a villa and then the second one is more in a boutique hotel. That’s correct, right?

Michelle Le:

Correct. That’s correct.

Dave:

And then it looks like you guys start with morning stretches, workout at 8:00, healthy breakfast at 9:00. Maybe just run us through the timing of the day.

Michelle Le:

Oh, the program?

Dave:

Because I know everyone’s concerned, can they get their work done? What does this look like?

Michelle Le:

No, you’re going to get some work done. So basically, we start at eight o’clock with a morning workout of about an hour. Then from 9:00 till 10:00, we have breakfast together. And then from 10:00 to 1:00, we have all the workshops and the masterminding brainstorming or in the afternoon. So it always depends on everyone’s working schedule. When people sign up, I ask them to let me know, do you have important calls or do you have a work schedule? And then I create a program as good as possible around it. So basically, one in the Villa, we’re going to do mostly workshops in the afternoon. And the one in the hotel, it seems like basically, everyone’s working schedule is going to be in the morning. And then basically the hours after lunch or before lunch, you have the time to work on your own stuff or to share skills. Or if you even want, if you worked super hard and everything went well last year, then you can just have a cocktail and lay at the pool. So it really depends on your needs. And then also we spend time focusing on group connection. My background is in education and social work, so I always try to optimize the group dynamics and that people really get to know each other on a personal level as well. Because I think when you can truly be yourself, then you dare to be vulnerable and you have the mind space to learn. So that’s also an important thing that we work on. And then the rest also, having drinks and relaxing and having walks.

Dave:

Well the one thing I really like about your program, just so everyone knows here in the community, I’m sure you’ve all have met Michelle. You’ve seen her in the Digital Nomad forums talking about her events. So if you get a chance, I would definitely recommend checking it out, at least getting a chance to connect with Michelle. But yes, she’s got a background in education, business development, marketing, sales, community building. She has a bachelor in education. So I think it’s really interesting because you really try to bring it almost like an accelerator… Maybe I’m butchering this, but almost for me, the way I look at it, it’s almost like a business accelerator because I think what I’ve been most impressed with is when people leave your retreats, it’s not just leaving and being relaxed and having an introduction to lifestyle, but people are leaving and actually generating more money for their businesses, whether it’s from coming out of the masterminds where you work together. So maybe tell us a bit about that because I think that’s really interesting. So it’s an investment to go through the week, but coming out of it, typically it’s paying for itself pretty quickly. I know for me, that’s always important. You don’t want to go to a conference, you always want to try and come out actually paying for the conference.

Michelle Le:

Of course.

Dave:

So maybe just tell us about some of the success stories that you have, because I find that pretty compelling.

Michelle Le:

Exactly. We have multiple stories. So basically, what we have for example, is a business coach, executive coach, that I now also work with, and that also happened during the Escape. So Johann was an executive coach for many years and now focuses on online entrepreneurs. And while he joined our program, he basically just started working remotely doing that and doing it from a distance. During my Escapes, he found three clients that he just signed up in front of me, three contracts for three months and a 10K in revenue. So that could happen in one week. Also collaborations, people start businesses together. People start creating ideas. We also had a group in Algarve that was really funny. It was one guy who owns a palm tree plantation in the Philippines and he has water buffaloes on that property. And he needs water buffaloes to maintain the property because that’s how it maintains itself, if you have the water buffaloes there. And then he was like, “Hmm, do other people maybe want to invest in the water buffaloes?” Because water buffaloes, when you buy them, you have a whole model, in three years they triple the value, basically, because they grow and they can eat more or something like that. I didn’t look into the background, but then the whole group bought a water buffalo. So that is also, they started a water buffalo investment company. The weirdest things happen there. But yeah, basically people sign each other up as business partners, clients, accountability partners, that happens a lot. People stay in touch, once a month they call. Also in our online community where we do the masterminds and the skill shares. Yeah, that is basically the magic when you have all the people together and with all these different backgrounds.

Dave:

Cool. For the community and for those who just joined us, it looks like we have Johann here in the group with us, it’s his last name.

Michelle Le:

Oh, really? Hi Johann!

Dave:

So he’s here with us. He gave us a little fire symbol. So yeah, he’s here with us. He just joined us. We have Hannah Dickson as well, who’s here with us. She’s the big VA coach. We’re going live with Hannah on Friday at 3:00 PM, so yeah, really happy to have you here with us, Hannah. For those of you who just joined us, I would go check out thenomadescape.com. You can check out the programs that Michelle is offering. We’re just catching up with her a bit. She’s actually live from Madeira Island. I see a palm tree behind you.

Michelle Le:

Yeah!

Dave:

You can’t beat that, right? A total nomad. 

Michelle Le:

Nomads, yeah. This is quite a good nomad life. Well basically, I have a balcony up there and that’s really sunny and the view is really good, but then I don’t see anything. So that’s the struggles of the digital nomad life, you cannot see-

Dave:

Oh, I feel so bad for you.

Michelle Le:

Yeah, I know man. Hashtag first world problems.

Dave:

So tell us a bit about Madeira. So you went to Madeira last year in January and spent some time there and now you’re back again.

Michelle Le:

Yeah.

Dave:

Give us a little update because I know you’re also a partner with the initiative going on with Goncalo, from Ponta do Sol and throughout Madeira island, maybe. Just give us a glimpse into what it’s like on the island there.

Michelle Le:

It is pure magic. It is so close to Portugal mainland: one-and-a-half hour flying and you enter a totally different world. They say also it’s like the Hawaii of Europe, you have all the mountains and the cliffs. Everywhere is ocean view and you can also be in a top mountain forest, really enchanted and have a bit more chilly. Everything you want is basically here. And it’s a really vibrant community. I’ve been to the Digital Nomad Village and what Goncalo is building. It’s just also pure magic because what they’re really doing there is bringing nomads to an area where normally not so many people go now, but because of the community and the facilities they are creating there, people want to be there and it’s becoming this European Bali, almost. That is really beautiful because then you also see the social impact that nomads can have because in an area like this, it’s normally not that touristy, now we come there with… We come there, we spend there, we stay there, give exposure. So I think the biggest thing here is that it has everything, basically, what a tropical island has. It is close to Europe, you can really have social impacts and all the excitement around what is happening now that brings more and more people here. Yeah, the connections that you can make are super valuable and growing a lot at the moment. And also the fact that now, this is the safest destination in Europe at the moment. You get a test on arrival, it’s super well arranged. When I arrived here, I arrived in the night and I was like, “Okay, maybe I need to wait longer because it was 10:00 or so when I arrived. And they had just asked me, “Hey, did you have a test? Yes or no?” So like, “No, not yet.” “Okay, you can go see the nurse.” Then I got a banana as well, I got a banana, it was super nice, of course. Got a banana, got the swab. I never had a swab and I was super afraid because I heard horrifying things. But it was not that bad, to be honest. And I was happy with my banana. After, I went to my hotel and three hours later when I was sleeping, I got the results and then I was good to go. So the whole process goes super smooth and yeah, everyone is also super mindful. There’s a curfew after seven, but after seven it’s getting dark either way, so make the most of it during the day and work a little bit in the night. It’s truly, truly paradise. Last year I was here, what I told you, what everyone knows as well, we were here on a three-weeks trip and I think we were the first Digital Nomad program ever here on the island. And I was like, “Oh, you want to go to Madeira island? It’s for old people.” That’s what many people say, but it’s an adventure place. And why people say maybe it’s all people because there’s a lot of hiking and nature. But I think what digital nomads have in common with old people is that we do love hiking and we like nature. We don’t, per se, like the city center of Barcelona, party-hardy. It’s more nature related, we’re more connected in a way. More connections with locals as well, connection with other people that you are a part of the community. So basically, it ticks all the boxes. Yeah, people are really surprised when I have calls. Also I do a lot of calls of people now applying for Escapes and they’re like, “How is it?” I’m just sitting on my balcony, like, “Huh? What’s that?” I was like, “Dude, that’s Europe. Come here. It’s two hours flying.” It’s possible.

Dave:

How was the weather? What is the weather like?

Michelle Le:

It’s now 21 degrees, I think. Yeah. And I’ve been the last days only working in my bikini next to the pool.

Dave:

All right.

Michelle Le:

Yeah, that’s pretty nice.

Dave:

You can’t beat them. That’s awesome, Michelle. Well, it’s great that you’re having such a good time there. I’ve got other couple of people who have said something. Neil, James. Hi. What’s up, Neil?

Michelle Le:

Hi!

Dave:

Johann. It was Johann, so we actually had the right Johann-

Michelle Le:

Hi everyone!

Dave:

And we have Shakeel Hussain]. Good to see you too, Shakeel. If anyone has any question, feel free to ask us some questions. We’ve got Michelle here for a few more minutes. If you guys have any questions, you just want to say hi to Michelle, that’s awesome. So Michelle has this retreat, like we said, the 26th of February, the 5th of March, and then also from the 13th through the 20th, but I also want to hit a bit on your community, because think what my understanding is, you’ve built this amazing offline community through your retreats over the years. And now you’re moving that online. It’s in the beta phase, you’ve been working on it this first quarter. You’ve got a group of Escapers that are helping you too, so it’s really inspiring. Tell us a bit about what you’re up to because I’m sure everyone would love to know more about your community. I would love to partner with you on it too because I feel like everyone could get massive value out of it.

Michelle Le:

Yeah, so basically what we do offline with the Nomad Escape, we do online. That’s how simple it is. So all the workshops that we facilitate there, the connecting the people, that happens there as well. So what I do basically, it’s a community and events built together with the community and for the community. So what we do for example is getting everyone involved in the development. For example, I have now a team of 12 people and basically voluntarily, they work on the Escape and say, “Hey, we know Michelle, you’re an entrepreneur, you’re a startup. But the value that we got out of this is so big. And if this grows, we know you can do it all alone, but if this grows with a little bit of effort from our side, then we have a lot of value at the end also out of it because our network grows, our opportunity grows. So what I do now, basically, with the community, I ask for all the engaged people, “Okay, do you want to contribute and what do you really like to do?” For example Johann, I don’t know if he’s still watching, but Johann is an executive coach and he has a lot of experience. He asks the right questions, specifically for entrepreneurs to reflect on basically the patterns and in your mind and your behavior and how that affects your business. So things even from the past, of course very psychological, but he’s really an expert in that. And he, for example, offered, “Hey Michelle, I want to be connected to your platform and be the executive coach. If people want to have help, I’m there to help. But also, I want to give value.” So once every two weeks, we talk about the mind. He gives a webinar basically about how the mind works, where your beliefs come from, limiting beliefs, and then people can ask questions. Then we have, for example, Yusef. Yusef is the youngest Escaper that we have, 21 years old. One of the smartest guys ever. He’s a software engineer, specialized in AI, and also a photographer. And he said, “Michelle, I love the skillshare. So basically, I love to learn from other professionals. What are their core skills and how that generates them money? So I want to be the skillshare coordinator, events coordinator.” So what he does, he reaches out to all the other Escapers, “Hey, do you want to contribute? You want to do a 30 minute presentation or a workshop or a Q&A, and tell a little bit about what you do and how you generate income with that?” And then we have Julia, she’s a welcome buddy. And everyone who arrives in the groups, “Hey, I’m Julia, I’m here to help you. What are you looking for?” “I’m looking for a digital marketer.” “Okay, let’s connect.” So I have a whole group of these people who say, “Hey, the value of connecting the people, that’s so high that we say, ‘Okay, let’s do that together.'” So now we’re in the first stage basically of bringing the people there, really creating a framework. And most important, I think, the culture. It’s very important to have the culture in line with your brand values and your mission and your vision and the way how we treat each other within there and how we support each other. So now we’re creating that. And then the next phase, we’re going to have the free version, everyone can join, everyone can find value, but then we have also a premium version where people can sign up and there are more events, more skillshares, more masterminds and more support. Yeah, also based on, of course, not everyone can travel. Since you cannot come to us, we have a lot of people… In the last interview that we had, there was a guy, and I cannot remember… I don’t know if you remember his name, but he was asking questions. I jumped on a call after the call with us. And he was dying to get here. And he was, “Michelle, I want to get there but I’m from the US. I want to join, how can I do that?” And I was like, “Oh nice. I have the Escapers Club now.” So the people who cannot join now join online and the people who join offline can later join online. So you have this nice, beautiful circle.

Dave:

So you need to leave a link here in this live so people can sign up. How do they find the community?

Michelle Le:

The Escapers Club? So basically, it’s through an invite. So they have to really connect with me  or with people from the Nomad Escape, “Hey, do you have an invite for me?” And then we send you a link with some questions and to check, is this a good match? Because we are quite selective as well. We don’t want to have only spammers or only people who want to sell their things. I guess it really gives value for each other and to each other.

Dave:

Nice.

Michelle Le:

So that’s what it’s all about, yeah.

Dave:

I joined the group recently and it looks really, really good.

Michelle Le:

Yeah!

Dave:

It’s a really nice community app that you guys have built. And it seems it has everything in there. I was noticing it looks like you guys have a “get shit done” co-work once a week, if that’s right?

Michelle Le:

Yeah.

Dave:

Where you guys get together and hammer out ideas together.

Michelle Le:

Yeah.

Dave:

I’m trying to… Double Down Mastermind. I’m not exactly sure what that means, but that looks really cool. I noticed there was a crypto event, taxes for nomads. There’s just all sorts of really cool events happening in there each week.

Michelle Le:

Yeah. It’s really based on the expertise and experiences of our Escapers. So for example, and one of the guys who is now telling about crypto, for example, he never even joined us. He’s one of our most engaged followers and he wants to join but he’s in Caribbean, all the way in Dominica, an island somewhere far away in the Caribbean, “Oh, I want to join.” Then okay, you can’t? Join Escape Club. He’s like, “Okay, I want to do a skillshare.” That’s so cool. It’s all the expertise from all the people who are there. We have tax experts, tech lawyers, focus on tech professionals, and the tech industry. We have also, like the girl that is on the next Escape, she’s a very successful Instagram entrepreneur. She’s going to talk about how to monetize your Instagram. So it’s all super valuable, like you basically would pay for an online course. You would buy an online course hoping that that gives you the value. But now you’re actually learning it live from the people. You can directly chat with them and it’s not like they’re your teachers per se. No, we’re all Escapers from the same community and we help each other. And that’s the cool thing about it and it’s really unique. I will drop the invite link in the… I cannot see who’s texting on my end. I’m like, “Oh, I want to answer that.”

Dave:

Well, we’ve got Evron Abraham Jr.

Michelle Le:

Oh, that’s Ron! Hi Ron! That’s the guy from Dominica. That’s the crypto guy.

Dave:

Hey Ron, what’s up? Anyone else have any questions for Michelle? So we’ve got the Nomad Escape retreats that you’re running.

Michelle Le:

Yeah.

Dave:

We’ve also got the community, which is the online, and we’ve got the offline community, but mostly the online community is really hot right now, re =ally working at building up. So I would encourage anyone who’s really interested in getting into more of a tight knit community where you have lots of cool masterminds. It’s not as big as a Facebook group, which is a little bit impersonal. It’s taking it to the next level. I kind of look at it almost like a dynamite circle type group where you have-

Michelle Le:

Yeah.

Dave:

… some VIPs that are in there working together, pay a little bit to join the advanced group, but then you also get access to the retreats. Evron says, “Ha, ha. That’s me.” Julian joined us, she’s one of my friends. She’s said she’s teaching, I think in Switzerland somewhere. Hi Julia. But listen, Michelle, I don’t want this to drag on too long. I guess is there anything you’d like to say before we log off here? Any tips or tricks you’ve got for the group or any offers you’d like to share with us?

Michelle Le:

Well, I have a nice offer that you don’t even know about.

Dave:

All right!

Michelle Le:

For the 26th of February, we were full but one of the girls that would join, she comes from Germany and she couldn’t. So she’s joining now the one of the 13th of March. And for the 26th of February until the 5th of March, I have unexpectedly, since this morning, one spot left and for the NomadX community, I have a discount of 200 euros. So that’s almost for free. It’s a shared room. Dudes, check the page. I will share a link, but yeah, you get almost-

Dave:

You better be careful. I might arrive on the 26th to join you.

Michelle Le:

Yeah, yeah! Come! We’re waiting for you!

Dave:

Yeah, if I can offer some value. Yeah, Michelle puts on an amazing retreat. She’s on the island of Madeira right now. She runs an amazing community. We’re super happy to be affiliated with Michelle and we have her back again. I think she’s been on our channel here at least maybe half a dozen times.

Michelle Le:

I don’t know how many, like 10 times.

Dave:

But yeah, she’s really amazing. She’s a great educator, she’s got a great community. For those people that are… I’m trying to think. Yeah. Remote workers, entrepreneurs, business owners. Join Michelle. She’s going to offer you a lot of value and just wish you all the best, Michelle. And hope to see you very, very soon. I’m hoping to arrive in the next week or two. I’m just negotiating with my wife right on the date.

Michelle Le:

Yeah, come!

Dave:

Yeah. For everyone out there, I really appreciate everyone who’s watching the show.

Michelle Le:

Thank you guys.

Dave:

And join our community and really love Michelle. I think she’s awesome. It’s going to be an amazing time in Madeira. So thanks so much for joining us, Michelle, and we wish you all the best.

Michelle Le:

Thank you, thank you. Yeah.

Dave:

All right.

Michelle Le:

Thank you guys. Thank you! Buy from Madeira!

Dave:

Take care, Michelle. Bye-bye.

Michelle Le:

Bye-bye.

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